DEF CON 32 - Tough Adversary  Don’t Blame Sun Tzu - Gregory Carpenter, DrPH

DEF CON 32 - Tough Adversary Don’t Blame Sun Tzu - Gregory Carpenter, DrPH

Source: YouTube · DEFCONConference · published Oct 16, 2024 · 22:47

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China and Russia prioritize non-kinetic, psychologically driven strategies rooted in historical grievances against the West, using control of language and meaning as a core element of information warfare. Both nations embed historical philosophy—such as Sun Tzu’s Art of War and Ma Teng’s Three Strategies in China, and the Slavophile-Westernizer conflict in Russia—into military and state doctrine to shape global perception and assert strategic influence.

Key Takeaways:
• Chinese military education emphasizes seven military classics, including The Book of Swindles, teaching manipulation of perception and behavior 2:30.
• The Chinese National Defense University prioritizes information warfare over kinetic conflict, with Sun Tzu and Ma Teng’s philosophies directly linked to national strategy and public influence 3:48.
• Russia’s information strategy evolved from the Slavophile-Westernizer conflict, Cold War propaganda, and post-1990s internal focus, with Pravda establishing long-term narrative control 15:02.
• Both nations use psychological operations to justify strategic narratives by leveraging historical trauma from Western actions 18:26.
• Chinese operations are stealthy and multilingual (e.g., using Russian language settings), while Russian efforts are strategic and resource-constrained, directly tied to national objectives 21:10.

Information control is central to national sovereignty for both China and Russia, with historical grievances serving as the foundation for shaping global narratives and strategic behavior.

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  • 2:30 Overview of Chinese military classics and their influence on strategy

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I am uh Greg Carpenter um former NSA guy outed on Wikileaks so I get to come out here and do stuff now and meet real people so it's nice um I have an interesting I think it's an interesting talk today I've studied for the last couple years now uh pulling information from U Russian and Chinese curriculum at their uh military universities and we're going to take a look at how that ties to National strategic goals their philosophy and their strategy so uh this is pretty much it's a no sunzoo zone so no quotes from sunzoo for anybody out here today okay I don't want to hear any uh quick agenda just so you can see where we're going to go pretty straightforward Chinese history influences how they're working at today and how it links to National goals and the same thing with Russia one thing that…