SIG Autoscaling Weekly SIG Meeting for 20250519

SIG Autoscaling Weekly SIG Meeting for 20250519

Source: YouTube · Kubernetes · published May 19, 2025 · 26:56

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The meeting discusses challenges in Kubernetes autoscaling, including VPA downgrade limitations, HPA instability during high load, cluster autoscaler performance at scale, and meeting scheduling inefficiencies. 1:01

Key Takeaways:
• VPA may face downgrade issues similar to Kubernetes, but due to its smaller scope, these can be managed without strict rules 1:30.
• Proposing an HPA fallback replica field to scale when pods are unready could improve stability during high load 2:28.
• Cluster autoscaler can handle up to 2,000 nodes with proper tuning; performance improves by adjusting parallelism and ensuring pods finish before scale-down 11:04.
• Inter-pod affinity severely degrades autoscaler performance; one pod per node can be achieved via pod sizing or pod slots without affinity 18:08.
• Scaling across multiple node pools requires dedicated autoscaler runtimes or sharding for large clusters 24:00.

The team agrees to refine HPA design, improve autoscaler performance, and adjust meeting times to better serve global contributors. 26:50

Sources:

  • 1:01 Discussion on VPA downgradability and Kubernetes comparisons
  • 1:30 Analysis of VPA downgrade scenarios and project complexity
  • 2:28 Proposal for HPA fallback replica field to improve scaling during unready pods
  • 11:04 Cluster autoscaler performance tuning and scale-down optimization
  • [18:08](https://www.yout

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Uh okay, perfect. Thanks for taking care of this and welcome all to the CIOT scaling meeting on the 19th of May 2025. Uh okay, let's look at the agenda. Uh I see that we have Adrian here. So first item of business, does the VPA need to support downgrades by a single version cleanly like Kubernetes Kubernetes does? Um, I know I've been away. Um, but does it make sense to have Ray as part of this conversation? Uh, probably. I'm assuming he's not here. He doesn't seem to be on the call. I mean, I'm happy to wait. It's not an urgent thing. It's just more more of a philos philosophical discussion of like what should we or shouldn't be doing and then let's write it down, but we can wait. We can postpone. Cool. when we do have the conversation just at to add a wrinkle there are complexities in if…