Have we finally solved social engineering? Plus: World Cup fraud, AI IDs and an IBM/OpenAI collab

Have we finally solved social engineering? Plus: World Cup fraud, AI IDs and an IBM/OpenAI collab

Source: YouTube · IBM Technology · published Jun 24, 2026 · 39:04

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The podcast discusses whether LLMs could end social engineering attacks, concluding that AI learning from human behavior might help, but true security will only come when humans are removed from routine trust decisions 0:00-0:07.

Key Takeaways:
• LLMs are learning from human behaviors to potentially provide safety against social engineering 0:07-0:15
• LLMs themselves can also be targets of social engineering attacks 0:17-0:23
• The end of social engineering won't happen when humans get smarter, but when they're removed from trust decisions 0:23-0:30
• This discussion is part of IBM's Security Intelligence podcast featuring cybersecurity experts 0:37-0:57

The podcast provides expert insights on the evolving relationship between AI, cybersecurity, and social engineering threats.

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  • 0:00-0:07 Discussion about LLMs ending social engineering
  • 0:07-0:15 AI learning from humans for safety
  • 0:17-0:23 LLMs as targets of social engineering
  • 0:23-0:30 Human removal from trust decisions
  • 0:37-0:57 Podcast introduction and panelists

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A new op-ed in dark reading says LLMs could end social engineering panel. What do we think? Dave, I'll refer to you first. >> I think that AI is learning from us so that we can uh be safe from from this is excellent. Excellent. >> People are not the only ones that are being social engineered because the um LLMs are also being social engineered. >> The end of social engineering won't happen when when humans get smarter. will happen when humans are completely removed from routine trust decisions. >> Hello and welcome to Security Intelligence, IBM's weekly cyber security podcast where our expert panelists turn the biggest industry news stories into practical takeaways you can use. I'm your host Matt Kazinski and joining me today we've got Dave Bales, North American lead managing consultants f…